Tag: Workplace loyalty

  • Employee Put on PIP Turns It Into a ‘Paid Interview Period,’ Then Quits With 3 Days’ Notice

    Employee Put on PIP Turns It Into a ‘Paid Interview Period,’ Then Quits With 3 Days’ Notice

    Key Highlights:

    • An employee placed on a Performance Improvement Plan used the period to interview for director roles elsewhere.
    • The employee submitted a three-day notice during a follow-up call attended by the manager and HR.
    • The Reddit account has drawn 1,900 comments, although The Daily Dot could not independently verify the story.

    Employee Turns Performance Improvement Plan Into a “Paid Interview Period”

    A manager has shared how a popular employee responded after being placed on a Performance Improvement Plan, or PIP, by using the time to pursue other job opportunities before resigning with three days’ notice. The account was posted to Reddit’s r/managers community and had received 1,900 comments at the time of publication.

    According to the manager, the employee was well liked but was placed on a PIP despite the manager’s opposition. The process reportedly began when a director unexpectedly scheduled a coaching session. When the employee joined the meeting, a representative from HR was already present, and the PIP document was displayed on the shared screen.

    “Dude was in shambles. But used the PIP as a paid interview period (as he should), probably because HR was saying one thing on what a PIP is, but my director was basically saying he was not cut out for the job he had for 5+ yrs,” wrote the manager.

    The manager said the employee requested weekly follow-up meetings. HR did not attend those meetings initially; they were generally conducted either by the manager alone or by the director, manager and employee together. During one scheduled meeting, however, the manager joined and discovered that HR was already on the call. The employee then submitted a three-day notice.

    “I’m not mad. We planned to fire him over a 2k-5k (though tenured) account nobody cared about, but the relationship was deep,” the manager wrote.

    Manager Says Employee Was Interviewing for Director Roles

    The manager said the employee had been interviewing for director positions and appeared to be using the PIP period to gain interview experience. The manager connected that explanation with changes in the employee’s attendance and paid time off usage.

    “I was interviewing for director roles elsewhere (getting reps in), and in late a few times. I figured he used this as a paid interview period, which explains his lateness to work. Dude was never, ever late to work; he never took PTO. Suddenly he was eating up PTO, and I was absolutely approving it.”

    After the employee resigned, the director reportedly described the decision as unprofessional and expressed frustration during a call with the manager. The manager said he defended the employee, noting that the employee had three young children and a baby. The company had been preparing to dismiss him when rent was due and without severance, according to the post.

    The manager summarized his position to the director by writing: “But he owes us nothing.”

    Reddit Users Debate PIPs, Loyalty and Workplace “Professionalism”

    Several commenters responded by questioning whether leaving during a PIP should be considered unprofessional. One commenter wrote, “Unprofessionalism is used the same way as respect. Where people throw it around, and any behavior that isn’t being a doormat is called unprofessional or disrespectful.”

    Another commenter shared a personal experience with a PIP after years at a company: “As someone who was put on a PIP after 6 years for one missed deadline – that PIP was the best thing that happened to me. Got me a 40% raise somewhere else.”

    The Daily Dot said it could not independently verify the incidents, identities, professional backgrounds or businesses described in the original Reddit post and comments. The details reflect accounts posted by individual users on r/managers.

    Why This Matters

    Performance Improvement Plans are often presented as a way to give employees clear expectations and an opportunity to improve, but they can also signal that termination is being considered. In this account, the employee treated the PIP as a period to secure another role, while the manager viewed the company’s planned dismissal as potentially damaging to an employee with significant family and financial obligations.

    The story also highlights the competing expectations surrounding workplace loyalty, notice periods and professional conduct. The Reddit discussion shows that some employees and managers view a PIP as a reason to begin searching for another job, particularly when they believe the outcome has already been decided.

    Frequently Asked Questions

    What is a Performance Improvement Plan?

    A Performance Improvement Plan is a formal workplace process intended to identify performance concerns, set expectations and establish a period for improvement. In some cases, it may precede dismissal.

    What did the employee do after being placed on the PIP?

    According to the manager’s Reddit account, the employee interviewed for director roles elsewhere, used paid time off and submitted a three-day notice during a follow-up meeting attended by HR.

    Was the story independently verified?

    No. The Daily Dot reported that it could not independently verify the incidents, identities, professional backgrounds or businesses described in the Reddit post and comments.

  • Worker Fired on the Spot Despite Giving Proper Notice and Handover Document

    Worker Fired on the Spot Despite Giving Proper Notice and Handover Document

    Key Highlights:

    • A Reddit user said their employer terminated them immediately after they submitted a two-week resignation notice.
    • The worker said they had spent four years at the company, worked unpaid overtime weekends and prepared a detailed handover document.
    • Commenters debated whether immediate termination protects company information or demonstrates a lack of employee loyalty.

    Reddit worker says resignation led to immediate termination

    A Reddit user said their employer ended their employment immediately after they submitted a proper two-week notice, despite offering a detailed handover plan. The post, shared in the r/jobs subreddit under the title Giving a two-week notice taught me that company loyalty is a total scam, received 1,400 comments.

    The corporate employee said they had worked for the company for four years with a “glowing performance and countless unpaid overtime weekends” before accepting a better role elsewhere. According to the post, the employee scheduled a Monday morning call with their manager to resign professionally and had prepared a detailed document explaining the handover process.

    Employee says access was cut off within minutes

    The worker said they delivered a polite, professional two-week notice during the call. “The response was instant hostility,” the user wrote. The manager allegedly remained silent for 10 seconds after hearing the resignation before saying they felt betrayed because the employee was leaving during a busy quarter.

    “Twenty minutes later, my Slack and email access were cut off, and HR called to tell me my termination was effective immediately,” the user wrote. The employee said the company’s response made them feel like a corporate spy who had stolen trade secrets rather than someone who had dedicated four years to the organization.

    “They wouldn’t even let me say goodbye to my team or grab my coffee mug from my desk.”

    The Reddit user argued that the company could have handled the situation differently if it intended to terminate them. “If they wanted to fire me, they would have locked me out at 9:00 AM with zero warning and zero severance. Stop giving courtesy notices to companies that view you as disposable inventory.”

    Reddit commenters debate workplace loyalty and security

    One commenter described losing their job after their company was acquired, despite having worked there for 16 years. “I busted my rear for 16 years. I was a star employee. We got acquired, and the acquiring company didn’t care about our division. They bought us for another division they wanted. Just like that, we were all let go. It was a nice severance check, but my loyalty and hard work didn’t matter. I got the same severance as the lazy girl in the cube next to me.”

    Another commenter said immediate termination can be standard for workers with access to sensitive information or customer relationships. “Depending on your role, it’s not uncommon to [sic] terminated immediately. If you have access to critical company IP, in sales where you have knowledge of customer sales/contacts these are the types of roles that get terminated immediately to protect the company. It’s not personal but rather the company protecting itself from any potential harm from IP/Sales knowledge leaking. If you are in sales, there is always the concern that you are leaving to a competitor.”

    The Daily Dot was unable to independently verify the incidents, identities, professional backgrounds or businesses described in the original post or the comments. The details reflect accounts shared by individual users on r/jobs.

    Why This Matters

    The discussion highlights the tension between employee notice periods and employers’ concerns about protecting company information, intellectual property and customer relationships. The Reddit account also reflects a broader workplace debate over whether loyalty and long service influence how companies respond when employees resign.

    In this case, the worker said they attempted to support a smooth transition by providing two weeks’ notice and a handover document, but the company instead ended access and employment within minutes. The available information does not establish the employer’s policies, the worker’s role or whether the termination involved severance.

    Frequently Asked Questions

    What happened to the Reddit user?

    The user said their employer terminated them immediately after they submitted a two-week resignation notice and cut off their Slack and email access about 20 minutes later.

    How long had the worker been employed there?

    The Reddit user said they had worked for the company for four years and had received a “glowing performance and countless unpaid overtime weekends.”

    Why did commenters say immediate termination can happen?

    One commenter said companies may immediately terminate employees in roles involving critical intellectual property, sales contacts or sensitive customer information, particularly when the employee could be joining a competitor.